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Galadriel
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 : 10:53:47 PM
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Considering I am born and bred in East Yorkshire I'm afraid I have to plead ignorance over the figure of Jesus on the Cross at the top of Garrowby Hill.
Have tried to Google to get info but with not much success. The statue absolutely fascinates me but please can someone put me out of my misery and tell me who made it? Who placed it there and why? Who maintains it? |
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adaytay
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 09:29:50 AM
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From here (http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/YORKSGEN/2002-09/1031987684), I found this:
Justine wrote..... "Also does anyone know the reason for the cross on Garrowby hillside? (Between the TV mast and the Bishop Wilton turn off) I hope someone can stop me wondering over this in future !!"
Hi Justine, I was born and raised in Bishop Wilton and I think this cross is a war memorial erected by the Earl of Halifax just after the war and whose estate includes Garrowby, Kirby Underdale and Bishop Wilton. Lord Halifax was Viceroy of India and foreign secretary at the start of the war. His son Peter was killed at El Alamain and his third son Richard Wood who became MP and Lord Holderness has recently died. A remarkable man who lost his legs when he was hit by a German bomb during the war.
Nearby is another memorial to commemorate an event that took place during the war. From: "Fimber: A Little Village with a Big History" "Arthur Kirby drove the local milk waggon, picking up the milk from the outlying farms before taking it to the railway station. Arthur also lodged with Mrs Midgley at the White House on Fridaythorpe Road. On 7th February 1944, a Halifax bomber was on a training flight from Rufforth Airfield near York. In thick fog, the aircraft crashed at Cot Nab Farm on the top of Garrowby Hill, killing the aircrew, their instructor and Arthur Kirkby as he drove the milk waggon. Sadly, Arthur's father had also been killed in the First World War and his mother had been relieved when Arthur was declared too old to be called up. It was one of the war's ironic twists of fate that Arthur had the misfortune to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. A granite memorial was erected at Garrowby in 1994 to commemorate those killed in the tragic accident."
Hope this is the one you mean :) |
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Cherry Bomb
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 9:47:50 PM
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| I was always under the impression the cross was there as there had been so many bad accidents on the hill and it was there as a good luck type sign?? |
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adaytay
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 10:22:23 PM
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I thought that too... but maybe not?
Would make sense if it was but I like idea of the memorial as I posted earlier. Plus wasn't there a really bad coach crash years ago, that may have something to do with it to?
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Dickie
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East Yorkshire
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 10:56:44 PM
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I think the last subscriber had it right.
As a child I spent my summer hol's at my uncles farm, Cheeescake Wold, at the top of Garrowby Hill, now long gone, demolished in the 80's. And the large wooden crusifix, as I best remember, was a memorial to the people that lost their lives in an horrific coach crash on Garrowby hill in the early fifties. Memory not so good, but think approx 13 people died that day. As semi retired now, may have a drive out soon just to check the facts.
Will update soon to confirm.
Regards to all in Driff, plus ex pats like me.
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SueG
Above Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 10:15:59 AM
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The gravestone memorial reached by the above link is not the same as the cross - which is on the right hand side as you travel down Garrowby.
Regards Sue |
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Galadriel
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Sep 2006 : 10:58:12 PM
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| Thankyou all for this information, it's very helpful. Does anybody know if the Halifax family or anyone else maintains the cross, it's been looking a bit green and discoloured of late. It would be such a shame if it collapsed through neglect. I must admit I always feel a sense of safety when I pass the statue as if it is keeping safe those who travel Garrowby Hill. What do others think? |
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Nathaniel West
Junior Member
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Posted - 28 Sep 2006 : 1:01:17 PM
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| Yes one does feel safe but I must admit that it is a nice spot anyway just walking around in the wind with the Vale of York one way and the Wolds the other. You can really ponder and air your thoughts! |
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plook
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Sep 2006 : 11:54:11 PM
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| Is Garroby Hill haunted? |
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Galadriel
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
203 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jun 2007 : 10:34:27 PM
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| Been trying to find further info on this with not much success - must Google a bit more! |
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zoe j
Above Average Member
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Posted - 08 Jun 2007 : 11:02:51 PM
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| I was always under the impression that the cross at garrowby hill was a memorial to those who lost their lives in a coach crash. |
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Ian Soanes
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Feb 2008 : 1:20:18 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Galadriel
Considering I am born and bred in East Yorkshire I'm afraid I have to plead ignorance over the figure of Jesus on the Cross at the top of Garrowby Hill. Have tried to Google to get info but with not much success. The statue absolutely fascinates me but please can someone put me out of my misery and tell me who made it? Who placed it there and why? Who maintains it?
I have just started reading a book "A Little Less Mud - More Reminiscences of a Yorkshire Farmwife" (Hutton Press 1989) by Irene Megginson who farmed Cot Nab farm near Garrowby Hill with her husband Jack from 1956. [See http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/obituaries/Irene-Megginson.3496964.jp]
The first paragraph of Chapter 4 says: "On July 1st 1956, in our first summer, we attended the little ceremony on the roadside near Garrowby Hill top, when the Archbishop of York dedicated the crucifix recently erected by the First Earl of Halifax to the memory of King George VI."
Although I've not seen the "figure of Jesus on the Cross" for myself, I believe this may explain it.
Regards, Ian
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Michael
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Mar 2008 : 9:20:48 PM
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To clarify the earlier posts on this subject there are actually 2 monuments on the side of Garrowby Hill.
- The Cucifix on the right hand Side as you go down the hill was erected in the summer of 1956 in memory of King George VI by his friend the first Earl of Halifax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._F._L._Wood,_1st_Earl_of_Halifax
- The gravestone memorial was erected in 1996 in memory of those who lost their lives when a Halifax Bomber hit a milk lorry which was travelling up the hill at 10.15hrs on the 7th of February 1944.
The following is from the 7february1944.co.uk website.
by Alun Emlyn-Jones, Bomb Aimer.
Garrowby Hill is in Yorkshire but the story of the fatal crash there starts near Oxford at the village of Stanton Harcourt. On that airfield was an Operational Training Unit and there my crew of five flew two-engined Whitley Bombers. During this and in their spare time we were welded together in a strong friendship. Aircrew members tended to feel like an extended family and we certainly did. During our time there, we won the shield for the best night bombing.
The course completed, we moved on to a Heavy Conversion Unit at RAF Rufforth, near York. Learning to fly the four engined Halifax Bomber on what we hoped to complete a tour of 30 operations, together, over enemy territory. The Halifax has a crew of seven, so two more members joined our family.
That winter of 1943/44 was a hard one and it was in snow that I rolled one night, as the pain of an erupting appendix gripped me. I went on weekends leave whilst our Medical Officer decided whether my appendix should be removed. I went home to Cardiff by train. Whilst waiting for a connection at Gloucester, I had another severe attack and on arrival at Cardiff was taken into a nursing home where my appendix was removed. It was 1st February 1944 . my 21st birthday. I wrote to Stan Bright, my pilot, saying that I hoped my absence would not mean that they had to find another Bomb Aimer. He replied reassuringly that the weather had .clamped., they were flying only occasionally and I could catch up on the training when I returned in 3 weeks.
On the 7th February they went up in that .clamped. weather. In cloud they would have not have known where they were precisely. It would have been natural to descend below the cloud level to get their bearings. They were not to know that the 838 feet of Garrowby Hill was between them and the flatlands. So they struck the road that follows the top of the hill, hitting a lorry that was using it. It was a glancing blow, the aircraft disintegrated and everyone died. The instructor who had completed a tour of operations had been gazetted with the Distinguished Flying Cross shortly before this final flight.
I thought about them often and in 1996 set up a memorial at the point of impact. I received great support in this endeavour and 92 people attended the unveiling, all associated in some way with that tragic event. The RAF gave us a fly past.
Now each year on Armistice Sunday as many as can gather on that site and remember those young men, two of whom were still in their teens, and the lorry driver.
After the crash I was a Bomb Aimer without a crew. A crew whose Bomb Aimer had been killed adopted me and I felt very fortunate to complete a tour with them at 51 squadron.
RAF Crew Flt. Sgt. STANLEY BRIGHT, Pilot Age 22 Sgt. KENNETH SMITH, Wireless operator Age 22 Sgt. JOHN FREDERICK NELSON, Engineer Age 21 F/O JOHN KINGSLEY MEYLER, Navigator Age 25 Sgt. PETER GORDON MCDONALD, Air Gunner Age 19 SGT. SIDNEY JAMES BOOKER, Air Gunner Age 19 Flt. Lt. ALFRED JOHN SHIRLEY HODSON, Pilot Instructor Age 29
Civilian Milk Lorry Driver - Mr Arthur Wood Kirkby, aged 39, of 3 Carlton Street, Hessle Road, Hull. He worked for the London and North Eastern Railway and was a member of the Home Guard.
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plook
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Mar 2008 : 10:39:04 PM
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| Halifax for the King? eh one mason to another then? |
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johnatdriff
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Apr 2008 : 11:44:08 PM
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| I have an altimetre in my car (sad i know) but when i pass the cross/memorial the reading is always 666 feet above sea level! |
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Pete
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Driffield, East York
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Posted - 18 Apr 2008 : 11:51:40 AM
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| ooh, spooky. Is your car a Saab? If so it maybe has a button somewhere to turn it into a plane, i'm sure thats what they had on a tv ad once for them. |
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johnatdriff
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Apr 2008 : 8:56:32 PM
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| It's just a little Fiesta i'm afraid, could do with it changing into something though, just to make it go a bit faster! lol |
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Dee
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Driffield
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Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 2:39:27 PM
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Further to the milk float incident -
February 12, 1944 FATAL ACCIDENT NEAR GARROWBY HILL On Monday, Mr A. Kirby, aged 35 years, of Hull, a railway milk collector, whilst proceeding on his rounds of visiting the Dale Village Farms, collecting milk, was killed under remarkable circumstances, when an aeroplane hit him. The motor he was driving was smashed almost to smithereens. He had no chance of escape. Deceased was highly respected in the district and a memorial service will be held in Fimber church at 3pm on Sunday.
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muckychimney
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 : 6:33:41 PM
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| Does anyone know where the statue has dissappeared to ?, I noticed it had gone last week, I hope it has'nt beed nicked or something sinister like that. |
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Galadriel
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 : 10:22:57 PM
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| Do you mean the statue of Jesus? I hope they've taken it to be spruced up and are going to put it back. Perhaps those in charge of it have finally read this site and taken notice and doing something to clean it up! |
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zoe j
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Posted - 08 Oct 2008 : 12:24:40 AM
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Maybe it was offensive to another religious group...??
OK before the PC Brigade get on my case......i was only joking. |
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muckychimney
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Oct 2008 : 6:47:21 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Galadriel
Do you mean the statue of Jesus? I hope they've taken it to be spruced up and are going to put it back. Perhaps those in charge of it have finally read this site and taken notice and doing something to clean it up!
Aye thats the one, I first noticed it "missing" last monday, hope its not been nicked then again these day the scroats'll nick owt for a few quid |
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jmichael_hall
Starting Member
El Salvador
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Posted - 02 Jan 2009 : 3:08:41 PM
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| Adding to this lengthy saga, I too recall passing the crucifix on the crest of Garrowby Hill as a child in the late 50's on my way to Bridlington in my father's Hillman Minx. A visual reward in the later 60's to tell me that I'd successfully negotiated the steep incline from the Vale below on my Lambretta Scooter. Close to the bottom of Garrowby, however, on the right hand side as one traveled down the hill, I also recall a smaller moss covered cross that my father said was a memorial to those who died in a runaway bus accident. I never knew if it was a wooden or stone construction and, although I looked for it a decade or so ago, it seemed to have disappeared by that time. |
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muckychimney
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jan 2009 : 7:32:55 PM
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| Story goes that it has indeed been taken away by Halifax estates for restoration as it was in need of repair, the cross should be reinstated by the spring |
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Ghost Rider
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Feb 2009 : 8:54:44 PM
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I travel along Garrowby Hill most days & I too was wondering about the cross's disappearance especially when I saw some guys resembling Gypsies loitering near it with a flat-bed truck parked nearby. I too thought it had been nicked, sorry to you 'good' Gypo's but I have some bad experiences with 'bad' Gypo's where I work nicking metal etc, but I'm glad the cross hasn't been stolen. I'm not a religious guy, but I do like to see the cross as I'm going passed it, especially on such a dangerous hill. |
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casiraghi
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 5:05:04 PM
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Hi, I was Googling my uncles name and found this site. My uncle (my mother was Jean Gladys Ashby - nee Booker) was Sgt Sidney James Booker who was killed in 1944. I have a picture of him in uniform but know very little about him or his comrades.
Having found out about the Armistice Day Service I will try and attend with some of my siblings. |
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mackenzie
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Oct 2009 : 10:49:30 AM
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| My uncle was one of the aircrew killed at Garrowby Hill and is named on the memorial. I have seen the memorial once but as I live in Hertfordshire it is a long way to travel. I know the families of the crew meet at the memorial on memorial sunday each year. |
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sazw1972
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Jun 2010 : 10:46:56 AM
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I'd always wondered what the Jesus on a cross statue was for. My Husband mentioned it was in memory of the Earl of Halifax, but to be completely honest, I've never noticed the Gravestone memorial and yet I pass by there on a daily basis!!!
Whereabout is it?
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